Planning Board Minutes
June 11, 2001

Present:  Scott Allen, Doug Allen, Tom Ferreri, Mert Bartels, Howard Jordan, Tom Morrison, Code Enforcement Officer Mario Fioravanti. Town Board Member Bill Hammond and MRB agent Mike Simon.

Chairman, Scott Allen at 7:30pm, called the meeting to order.  A motion was made by Tom Ferreri to wave the reading of the public notice as it appeared in the Times, seconded by Mert Bartels, all in favor.

Clocksin / Daansen Rd / Realty Subdivision / Final
Motion to open the public hearing was made by Mert Bartels, seconded by Tom Ferreri, all in favor.  Bob Seely was present to represent the application.  No one else was present to speak for or against this application.  Motion to close the public hearing was made by Tom Ferreri, seconded by Howard Jordan, all in favor.

Conant / Barnes Rd / Realty Subdivision / Final
Motion to open the public hearing was made by Tom Ferreri, seconded by Tom Morrison, all in favor.  Bob Seely and Linda Conant were present to represent this application.  No one else was present to speak for or against this application.  Motion to close this public hearing was made by Mert Bartels, seconded by Tom Ferreri, all in favor.

Smith / Daansen Rd / 1 Lot Subdivision and Site Plan / Preliminary and Final
Motion to open this public hearing was made by Tom Ferreri, seconded by Howard Jordan, all in favor.  Bob Seely was present to represent this application.  No one else was present to speak for or against this application.  Motion to close this public hearing was made by Mert Bartels, seconded by Tom Ferreri, all in favor.

Aurora Development Inc / East Ave / Realty Subdivision Revision and Site Plan / Preliminary and Final
Motion to open this public hearing was made by Tom Ferreri, seconded by Doug Allen, all in favor.  Bill Fanning was present to represent this application.  He stated that he would like to build a 7000-9000 square foot building on approximately 1.762 acres.  Bill stated that the map shows changes recommended by MRB.  The building is to house a millwork shop, storage for vehicles for Landscape Company, and office space.  All storage is to be inside.  The building is to be of pole barn construction with metal exterior in earth tones.
The resident of 331 East Ave was present to address the board.  She stated that this was a small residential street that has already been affected by the noise level from Wayneport Rd.  She also stated that the smells from Fleischer’s Bagels are a problem.  She stated that the children that live on the street are required to walk to the corner of East Ave and Wayneport Rd to get on the school bus and added traffic on this small road would be hazardous to them.  She also stated that the street had no sidewalks and no posted speed limit.  She questioned the proposed water lines.
Ed Holmes of 359 East Ave stated that he had been a resident of this street since the 1970’s.  He stated that on the street their lives a retired couple, a family with small children, and him and his daughter who rides her horse on the road.  Currently only 1-2 cars go down this street and he asked that the planning board maintain this atmosphere and let this business go in somewhere else.
Kevin Jones of 351 East Ave was present to address the board stating that he was the father of the children everyone had mentioned.  He questioned the environmental issues due to the millwork shop.  He asked if an environmental study had been done.  He questioned the drainage to Clinton ditch and the wetland area.  Kevin asked how many shifts the millwork shop would have, the number of employees, and the emissions from the paint used at the millwork shop.  Kevin questioned the amount of noise that would come from the business in this residential area.  He stated that when this area was changed to an ORM district there was no public notification.  Kevin asked about the sewage, water, power, and emergency vehicle access.  Kevin asked if the other land would also have business and if it is to have multiple businesses why can’t a separate access road be provided.  Scott Allen stated that the zoning is already there and the planning board can’t arbitrarily deny this application.
Nick Haskel stated that he lives in the last house on the road and stated that the land where this building is proposed was littered with junk.  He asked what the new owners planned on doing about it.  He also stated he had concerns about the wildlife in the area.  He also stated that if this proposal is approved it will devalue the residential property and the town should make up the difference.  He also stated that he has considered leaving the area if development is approved.  Mr. Haskel also mentioned that there is no speed limit sign posted.  Scott Allen stated that the residence could petition the town board to have speed limit signs posted.  Discussion continued about the one-lane bridge on Wayneport Rd and the drainage ditch.
Ester of 331 East Ave added that Wayneport area is a historical part of Macedon and development is devaluing all residential property in this area.  She asked if the residence in this area would receive a tax break from the Town of Macedon.  She continued to state that this project should have a separate entrance on either the South or East side.  Discussion continued about the water service and it was explained to the residence that the developer is responsible for providing the water details and all costs.  This process was reviewed for the residence benefit.  Ester continued by asking about the equipment that would be in the area.
Bill Fanning addressed this issue by stating that it is a landscape company and they would only have pick-up trucks with trailers carrying equipment.  Bill stated that all storage would be inside.  Prestige Millwork would take most of the space and parking would be provided for by town standards.  He continued by stating that the hours of operations would be 8am-5pm, possibly 6pm, unless a specific project required longer hours.  Bill stated that the millwork shop would only have 2-3 employees and the landscape business would only have 3 employees total.  Bill stated that if the town were to require sidewalks in this area due to this business, they would ask that the town help with providing this, but they are not opposed.  Bill continued by stating that the traffic from this proposal would not be continuous and it would not be a heavy flow.
Another resident asked about a chemical scrubber due to the millwork shop.  Bill stated that the millwork shop uses water based finishes and is very conscious of the environment.  The noise from this type of business is minimal, where the shop is currently located it is surrounded by office space and it has not been an issue.  He also stated that the building would be well insulated to reduce any noise that may occur.  Bill continued by stating that due to the nature of the business, it is impractical to build another road to access it.  The businesses are small and can’t afford such an expense.
Cy Packard was present and questioned what was required from the developer for the water service.  It was explained that the developer would need to submit water calculations to the Town Engineer and WCWSA would need to review the plans to insure adequate service.  It was explained that if a main were run the residence would be able to hook into it if large enough.  Bill stated that in conversation with WCWSA an 8” main with 2 hydrants would be needed and the residence would be able to hook-in.
Motion to close this public hearing was made by Tom Ferreri, seconded by Mert Bartels, all in favor.

Flaherty’s / Route 31 / Subdivision and Site Plan / Preliminary and Final
Motion to open this public hearing was made by Tom Ferreri, seconded by Doug Allen, all in favor.  The applicants were present to address the board concerning this application.  No one else was present to speak in favor or against this application.  Motion to close this public hearing was made by Howard Jordan, seconded by Tom Ferreri, all in favor.

Lakeside Engineering / Rod Prosser / Property on South Wayneport Rd for Rezoning / Brief Discussion
Rod Prosser was present to discuss the approximate 150 acres across from Marvin’s Country Club on South Wayneport Road.  He stated that the applicant would like to make a residential development in this area.  The proposal includes leaving the lots directly behind the existing homes larger to coincide and the developer also would like to extend sewer service to this area.  The rest of the land the developer would like to see rezoned to 20,000 square foot lots.  Rod stated that preliminary studies have already been done.  He continued by stating that there are possible wetlands in the area and this would not be changed, if they were DEC wetlands the developer would leave the 100’ buffer as needed.  There is 186 lots proposed and most would be approximately 22,000 square foot.  He continued by stating that it would be a three-phase development.  Doug Allen stated that the developer should be ready for scrutiny from the residence of this area.  Rod was told that the process would be to go first to the Town Board for a rezoning application for this area.

Clocksin / Daansen Rd / Realty Subdivision / Final
Bob Seely was present to address the board.  He stated that the total parcel is currently 55 acres on Daansen Rd and the applicant would like to divide 2.4 acres off to a separate lot.  He stated that the lot has good sight distance on either side but nothing is proposed to be built at this time.  Mike Simon asked about future development to the north and access to lots in that area.  Bob stated that this was the only good spot for a driveway; future access to the back lots may be available if the speed limit is reduced on the road.  Bob stated that this lot is being sold to one of the Clocksin’s son and any future lots would also be for their children.  It was stated that a note needed to be added to the plan that this is not an approved building lot.  The SEQR shows no negative impact.  A motion was made by Doug Allen to issue a negative declaration on the SEQR, seconded by Howard Jordan, all in favor.  Motion to grant realty subdivision with the addition of the needed note to the plan was made by Tom Ferreri, seconded by Doug Allen, all in favor.

Conant / Barnes Rd / Realty Subdivision / Final
Bob Seely stated that the applicants would like to purchase 100’ strip of land to add to their existing lot from the Hilton land.  SEQR shows no negative impact.  Motion to declare a negative declaration on the SEQR was made by Tom Ferreri, seconded by Mert Bartels, all in favor.  Motion to grant realty subdivision with the addition of a note stating that this is not an approved building lot was made by Doug Allen, seconded by Howard Jordan, all in favor.

Frost / Barnes Rd / 1 Lot Subdivision and Site Plan / Sketch
This applicant would like to purchase a 300’ strip of land from the Hilton property.  They are proposing one residence on this land and perk tests have already been done.  Comments from MRB were addressed and the only questionable item was the notation of a buried garbage layer.  Bob Seely stated that he does not remember this during the perk test and he has no mention of it in his notes.  Mike Simon stated that he would look into this.  Bob stated that an 8” water main would be shown on the final plan and the driveway location is best for site distance.  The 4 to 1 length to width ratio is not applicable in this case due to the 300’ width.  A motion to grant sketch plan approval on this application was made by Doug Allen, seconded by Mert Bartels, all in favor.

Flaherty’s / Route 31 / Subdivision and Site Plan / Preliminary and Final
Tim Same of Costich Engineering and the applicants were present to address the board.  Tim stated that Flaherty’s would like to purchase 3.24 acres from the parcel of land owned my Murphy and complete an approximate 3500 square foot addition on the existing building with additional parking area.  Tim stated that by verbal verification with DOT the second entrance way on the west of the building will not be allowed and will be removed on the final plan; additional green space will complete this area.  Comments from MRB were reviewed and it was stated that an engineering report was still needed.  Mike Simon stated that a detention pond was mentioned, however, no calculations were included.  Mike also stated that their were some minor grading issues that he would work with Tim on and a note should be added to the plan about a 1 year minimum guarantee on the landscaping.  Mike suggested, especially along the east side of the property where it is neighbored by a residential area, that shoebox type lighting was used so that the light is downcast.  Mike also requested a cut sheet and suggested maybe using high-pressure sodium lighting, which gives off a softer light.  Mike stated that erosion control needed to be cleared along with the water calculations and where the water will be generated.  Scott Allen questioned the existing vegetation along the east side that is currently buffering the trailer park.  Tim stated that that is to remain as a buffer.  Mert Bartels stated that he wanted to ensure the lighting would not impact the neighboring residential area.  Tom Ferreri asked if the parking spaces shown would truly be adequate.  Tim stated that they will have overflow parking in the back and that these spaces are based on peek time traffic in the Webster location.  Tom Morrison stated that he felt the existing buffering on the East is adequate, however, he felt their should be the same consideration on the West side of the parcel.  It was stated that the area on the West is tight due to a swale that is directed toward the back of the lot.  It was determined that the parking spaces on this side of the building could be 18’ in length instead of 20’ allowing an additional 6’ of green space on the west side for buffering.  It was stated that a sidewalk would exist around the entire building and a fire exist would be installed on the west side.  The patio area would be fenced and be similar in nature to the existing area now.  The dumpster would be enclosed and all outdoor freezers / coolers would be screened.  A changes was made to the SEQR form, item #7 was changed from 1.5 acres to 4.5 acres and initialed.  SEQR form shows no negative impact.  A motion to declare a negative declaration on the SEQR was made by Doug Allen, seconded by Tom Ferreri, all in favor.  A motion to grant preliminary and final approval based on the following conditions was made by Tom Ferreri, seconded by Howard Jordan, all in favor.  The approval conditions include:
1. MRB Comments to be addressed
2. The secondary entrance on the West side of the building is to be removed.
3. The existing vegetation on the East side of the building is to remain as a buffer
4. A gravel parking area will be provided to the North for overflow parking
5. Additional green space will be created on the West side by shortening the parking spaces in this area to 18’ instead of 20’.  The additional 6’ will have plantings of 6’ evergreen trees as a buffer area.  The plantings should be kept back from the road as to not block the view of oncoming traffic.
6. Drainage calculations to be submitted with an engineer report
7. The roof liters will be piped
8. The dumpster and outside refrigeration units will be enclosed or screened similar to the building
9. The patio area is to similar to the existing

Smith / Daansen Rd / 1 Lot Subdivision and Site Plan / Preliminary and Final
Bob Seely was present to represent this application.  He stated that this application had received approval to waive the 4 to 1 length to width ratio from the Town Board.  MRB comments were addressed.  Bob stated that total holding would be added, along with notes on the sanitary water.  He also stated that he would submit the water and sewer calculations.  Bob stated that the deep whole test was fine after bringing in gravel over a year ago.  Bob also stated that site distance would be added to the plan and iron survey pins would be set in the field.  Howard Jordan asked about the area filled with gravel.  Bob stated that it was an approximate 60’x60 area and it will be covered with topsoil.  SEQR shows no negative impact.  A motion to declare negative declaration on the SERQ was made by Mert Bartels, seconded by Tom Ferreri, all in favor.  Motion to grant preliminary and final approval subject to addressing all MRB comments was made by Doug Allen, seconded by Howard Jordan, all in favor.

Aurora Development Inc / East Ave / Realty Subdivision Revision and Site Plan Approval / Preliminary and Final
Bill Fanning was present to address the board concerning this application.  Mike Simon started conversation by reviewing some of the MRB Comments.  He stated that the parking area and access had no barriers such a curb stops along the building.  Bill stated that a walkway around the front of the building would be provided.  It was stated that their needed to be a minimum of 10’ between the parking area and the building according to town code.  The location of the perk / deep whole tests should be noted on the plan.  The grading around the septic would also need to be reviewed and the swale is less than 1% grade, which is not acceptable for positive drainage.  Erosion control measures should be noted along with the adjoining property owners.  Truck traffic on this road was questioned and it was stated that it needed to be demonstrated that a truck would be able to get in and turn around in this area.  It was stated that this was important for emergency vehicles as well as any deliveries.  A 30’ truck should be used for the demonstration.  Bill Fanning asked if a turn around at the end of the driveway would be a solution to this.  Bill stated that he met with WCWSA and they would like to see an 8” main brought back.  The parking lot is not to be paved initially, however, it will be eventually.  Scott Allen stated that a timeline should be provided for paving and the throat of the parking area needs to be paved.  Scott also stated that it appeared the tree at the end of the road is to be maintained like previously asked by the planning board.  The residence from the area stated that the tree was dispensable.  Howard Jordan stated that with the number of outstanding items he was not comfortable granting final approval during this meeting.  He had concerns especially with the road and the site distance to the hill with larger vehicles or pick-up trucks with trailers pulling out.  Bill stated that the short length of the road and the turn in the road does not allow anyone to speed in the area.  He understands the concern about fire trucks being able to access but felt that if the trucks for deliveries could get there so could a fire truck.  Bill continued by stating that the truck traffic would not be heavy, maybe a couple of trucks a week would need access and if the turn around is added this should not be a problem.  It was restated that 10’ of space was needed between the parking and the building and the applicant should take into account the minimum setback from the parking area to the right-of-way.  Land banking of parking was discussed on the East end of the lot and this area could also be used as a turn around.  The town code section 135-88 for setbacks in an ORM district were reviewed and it was stated that if the building is shifted 10’ to the South this should be resolved.  The applicant stated that no floor drains would be used in the building, it would have radiant floor heating.  Bill also stated that no exterior dust collection units would be used, inside bags would handle this and nothing would be vented to the outside.  This application was tabled until the above issues are resolved.

Baldwin Richardson Foods Co. / 3268 Blue Heron View / Site Plan
This application was logged in.

Fleischer’s Bagels / North Wayneport Rd
Bob Johnson was present to address the board concerning this application.  Fleischer’s would like to add approximately 55,000 square feet to their existing 42,000 square foot building.  Mr. Fleischer stated that he would like to keep this business in Macedon, however, if he can’t do this addition he will have to move the business.  The business currently operates 24 hours a day 6 days a week and employees 135 people.  With the 55,000 square foot addition an addition 45 people will be hired, 52 additional parking spaces and 4 additional loading docks would be needed.  Bob stated that the applicant would buy an additional 5 acres of land to comply with the maximum lot coverage of 20%.  Bob stated that the same lighting that currently exists would be used.  Mr. Fleischer stated that he would like to have this additional plan space operational by next March.  Bob Johnson presented a package of information to the board members for review.  The proposed addition would be on the east side of the building.  Bob stated that the plan would be sent to the power authority for review.  It was also stated that the company currently has two silos that are 8’ in diameter and 36’ in height.  They would like to add two additional silos 10’ in diameter and 85’ in height.  The new silos are made of carbon steel and are lined.  The silos are this size because of the production line.  It was discussed that a variance would be needed for these silos because the town code states a maximum building height of 48’.  The existing building is 24’ in height.  The applicant was referred to the Zoning Board of Appeals for a variance on the silo height.

Town Board Correspondence
Bill Hammond stated that he had a meeting concerning the Gananda Partnership application on Hance Rd.  Dick Roets and Rich Struzzi had come to an understanding that in order to resolve the drainage issues in this area that Mr. Struzzi would purchase the pipe needed and Dick Roets would install it.  Bill also explained the situation with Mrs. Bills.  He stated that when the road was straightened part of the land was separated and given away and she would like it back.   Bill stated that the town is addressing this issue.

Adjournment 10:38pm